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(Jdonaldson) #1

Please post simple technical questions like this to stack overflow.


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(Dmitry Hryppa) #2

@jdonaldson, but what is a “simple question” and how to detect it? For somebody it is a simple question, for somebody not.
Why we need forum then? It’s stange.


(Jdonaldson) #3

I wrote up these guidelines, which are based off of recommendations from discourse: http://community.haxe.org/t/faq-guidelines


(Valentin Lemière) #4

(I separated this topic from Javascript (haxe target) not auto-executable possible? so we can have a discussion without hijacking the original thread.)

Not sure about stack overflow, personally I like having everything in the same place (here :stuck_out_tongue:).

I agree with @dmitryhryppa, it’s not simple for people to figure out where to post,
and it’s not like we’re drowning in topics right now :wink:


(Jdonaldson) #5

Ok, that’s fine with me then.


(Guilherme Medeiros) #6

If we dont want people asking techinical/complicated questions here, at least open a “stackoverflow links” thread.
Whenever some of us ask a Haxe question on SO, this person can link it here.
It will help this person to get quick answers…


(Joshua Granick) #7

I vote for discussions here :wink:


(Sidar Talei) #8

Wasn’t there already a request a sub for “beginners”.
I don’t see why this wouldn’t work for advanced users either.

If you go to gamedev.stackexchange .com it’s laden with low tier questions on how to do basic things. And there are multiple of similar questions. While mods and users try to flag things and point to duplicate questions it doesn’t always work enough to keep the site from being ridden with too much of the same.

I think the problem there is that they don’t really have a central place where beginners can go, obviously gamedev.stackexchange isn’t meant for one language or one engine. However I do think same will happen to this place if more beginners start to stream in ( although im sure that would take forever considering it’s mainly the same people showing up in the haxe scene, but whatever ).

Something like the haxe cookbook is imperative to counter this problem. A place for common haxe knowledge.

I know gamedev isn’t the main point of haxe but I’d like to point out this:

Unity3D has something like : https://unity3d.com/learn/tutorials/s/scripting

This was done much later down the road when the forums were already booming with “HOW DO I DO X AND Y” questions and to this day a lot of people do not realize those pages exist. Because Google takes you places you really don’t want to be if you truly want to learn the basics.

If you want to reduce low quality posts or lots of noob questions there needs to be a central place for tutorials, documentations. And all of this needs to be pointed out on the front page of this forum so it’s clear as day.

Alternatively you have to create something like a new sub domain like haxehelp.haxe .org or whatever and run a secondary forum there.

( also I like IRC very much, and while it’s crowded it usually acts like a dead place to be. It’s a graveyard in many instances. Discord communities are far more active, not that we should use Discord, just saying that for people seeking help there should be such medium too)


(Itzik Arzoni) #9

Don’t forget that this is not just q&a forum, this is really a community.
I would like to see everything goes to here. If someone is bothered from questions he think are “too begginer-ish” which are confined to a beginners category, that’s a different problem.
I, personally, would love to see questions from the kind even I can answer.


(Juraj Kirchheim) #10

Haxe suffers from low visibility, so personally I think any question that does fit stackoverflow’s format should go there. Every such question posted here instead is a wasted opportunity of making Haxe being seen by what’s probably the biggest programming community out there.

The primary focus of this community should be discussions, open questions, non-technical stuff and what not. In short all the things that get closed on stackoverflow, but are very important for having an actual community.


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(Marcelo Serpa) #11

should be discussions, open questions, non-technical stuff and what not

I’m fine with using Stackoverflow, but I have two questions regarding that:

  1. @back2dos Your example is kind of vague. “Discussions” and “open-questions” could be anything. Could you elaborate a bit on them?
  2. Would it make sense (or possible) to have a read-only subforum that would index the stakoverflow questions here?

Regarding #2, I don’t think it’d make sense (and I guess it’d be kinda messy) to sync both ways (this forum to Stackoverflow and vice versa) and maybe not even fetch the body of the posts, but only the title/URL Having a subforum dedicated to stackoverflow with a sticky HOWTO post explaining how/why with a link to stackoverflow, followed by the stackoverflow links, would be nice. Not sure if there’s a plugin for that though.


(Valentin Lemière) #12

Do people check the questions about a language they don’t know?


(Jdonaldson) #13

The problem is that haxe help will never be completely centralized. Something new will come along and folks will want to use that.

Stackoverflow is still dominant, and I know folks who’ve gotten interviews and jobs solely from their SO profile. Ive seen cases where a language community (Rlang) started emphasizing SO and it greatly increased the language activity.

It’s good to have our own place for freeform discussion. This current discussion is exactly what should be here.

I don’t want the forums to be overly restrictive. We can let newbies ask whatever they want. I just think there’s significant benefits for funneling language questions with straightforward answers to SO.


(Joshua Granick) #14

I had not considered using StackOverflow as a form of visibility. I have found Discourse to be much friendlier for asking questions, writing answers, and continuing the discussion as things evolve.

Is there a Haxe specific section on StackOverflow, or is it based on tags?


(Louis Pearson) #15

There is no haxe specific stack overflow, it’s tag based. Here’s a link: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/haxe


(Joshua Granick) #16

If the priority is to put Haxe-related programming questions on Stack Overflow, a good starting point would be to contribute a pull request to add “haxe” as a supported syntax for the language highlighter they use: https://github.com/google/code-prettify#for-which-languages-does-it-work

The tag description could also use some updating


(Juraj Kirchheim) #17

You raise an important point. Someone focusing on Go doesn’t care about PHP questions. Haxe however is different in that regard. If for example you tag a question as [haxe] [javascript] chances are that at the end of the day a few more JavaScript developers will at least have heard of Haxe.


(Juraj Kirchheim) #18

Being vague is kind of the point here, as that complements the clear cut form of objective and answerable questions that stackoverflow is for.


(Jens Fischer) #19

What’s wrong with the tag description?


(Joshua Granick) #20

If you visit haxe.org, or the Wikipedia page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haxe), I believe they do a better job of introducing Haxe.